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In Romans, St. Paul Quoted & Themed Heavily from the Book of Wisdom

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oncerning the Catholic Bible, which was canonized at the Council of Rome in 382 AD, Protestants often object to our use of the Septuagint for the Old Testament (which has 7 more books than the usual Protestant bible) by saying that Jesus and none of the Apostles ever quoted from it. That is absolutely false! It is a fact that the Septuagint was the Hebrew Bible used by all Hellenic Jews (those who lived outside of Jerusalem).

In the example below, the reason why St. Paul did quote and use themes from the book of Wisdom in his Letter to the Romans is because it is a book that they would have been very familiar with.

Book of Wisdom

Paul’s letter to the Romans

2:21

These were their thoughts, but they erred; for their wickedness blinded them,

1:21

for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened.

2:24

But by the envy of the devil, death entered the world, and they who are in his possession experience it.

5:12

Therefore, just as through one person sin entered the world, and through sin, death, and thus death came to all, inasmuch as all sinned

12:12

For who can say to you, “What have you done?” or who can oppose your decree? Or when peoples perish, who can challenge you, their maker; or who can come into your presence as vindicator of unjust men?

9:19

You will say to me then, “Why (then) does he still find fault? For who can oppose his will?”

12:24

For they went far astray in the paths of error, taking for gods the worthless and disgusting among beasts, deceived like senseless infants.

14:8
but the handmade idol is accursed, and its maker as well: he for having produced it, and it, because though corruptible, it was termed a god.

14:12

For the source of wantoness is the devising of idols; and their invention was a corruption of life.

1:23

and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.

14:22

Then it was not enough for them to err in their knowledge of God; but even though they live in a great war of ignorance, they call such evils peace.

1:26-31

Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity.


And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. They are gossips and scandalmongers and they hate God. They are insolent, haughty, boastful, ingenious in their wickedness, and rebellious toward their parents. They are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

15:7

For truly the potter, laboriously working the soft earth, molds for our service each several article: Both the vessels that serve for clean purposes and their opposites, all alike; As to what shall be the use of each vessel of either class the worker in clay is the judge.

9:21

Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for a noble purpose and another for an ignoble one?

17:11

For wickedness, of its nature cowardly, testifies in its own condemnation, and because of a distressed conscience, always magnifies misfortunes.

2:15

They show that the demands of the law are written in their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even defend them

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In Romans, St. Paul Quoted & Themed Heavily from the Book of Wisdom
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In Romans, St. Paul Quoted & Themed Heavily from the Book of Wisdom
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Saint Paul quoted and used themes from the book of Wisdom in his Letter to the Romans because it is a book that they would have been very familiar with.
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  • Laurence Charles Ringo

    What does, other than the so-called Apocrypha/Deuter canonical books, do supposed”protestant”Bibles lack? Do they have a different Jesus? Don’t they go from Genesis to Revelation? What does a re-written”protestant” Bible look like, so I can avoid it in the future.

    • They lack the prophecies concerning the coming of Christ, they lack citations to books like this one that helps us understand where the New Testament writers were coming from, they lack the language of the Septuagint that the Greek New Testament uses for Jesus’ quotes from the Old Testament, they lack Scriptural grounding for many Apostolic teachings that Protestants reject, such as prayers for the dead, they lack the version of Esther that actually mentions God.

      • Ben Cubberley

        They lack prophecies of the returning of Christ? HOW DARE YOU say that? Revelations, and the gospels are in protestant Bibles! And they lack prayers for the dead books because that is AGAINST Jesus’ own teachings!

        • Again, it is a FACT that the books that Luther and the Calvinist took out of the Bible, BY NO ONE’S AUTHORITY BTW, DO contain prophecies about Jesus that you have never read. Very beautiful prophecies at that. Also, Jesus was a Jew. Jews pray for the Dead. Jesus prayed for the dead. LOL

          • Ben Cubberley

            The Hebrew Tanakh is the Old Testament. Nothing your pagan church added to it at any date matters. But the reaffirmation in 1546 was for good reason. Before this, it was KNOWN that they were historical and helpful books, but not inspired. But around the 1500s the English Bible was being widespread, and the real thruth of the catholic church being found out, and to legitimize pagan catholic practices, they “officially” added them. You need a history lesson. Yeah Luther removed them, because they were ILLEGITIMATE! Jesus was a Jew, yes, and you can figure that out without your uninspired books. Praying for the dead is unsciptural and Jesus DID NOT do it http://www.gotquestions.org/praying-for-the-dead.html You are so brainwashed by your pagan catholic teaching you say LOL about Jesus praying for the dead? How dare you? Stop relying on mans teachings you have had for your knowledge and focus on the Bible, Gods teachings and words, the REAL INSPIRED 66 book Bible, because as it is written “The wisdom of men is foolishness to God” (Dont think God would inspire a book called Wisdom with this teaching, think about it)

  • Laurence Charles Ringo

    You have no idea WHAT was in the”original”Bible, because you’ve never seen one, only copies; further, all credible scholars, Catholic, Protestant, and secular, know that the Jews never considered the so-called”deuterocanonical”books as inspired, just instructive.

    • Here something you didn’t know – there is no such thing as a Jewish canon of Scripture. Why? Because Rabbis don’t have the authority to canonize Scripture. No High Priesthood – No Authority. Same with Protestants. They didn’t have the authority to remove seven books from the Bible, because if they did, what’s stopping other Protestants from doing so. Oh wait, Jehovah Witness and Mormons did modify the Bible. That darn authority problem again.

      Early on the Catholic Church debated the idea of the Old Testament that Jews in Jerusalem started to use, but there were a number of problems with that. One being is that one of the motives behind Jews (who lacked authority) to create the Jamnia canon, in rejection of the Septuagint that Hellenistic Jews were using, was because of their rejection of Christianity. They knew what Protestants don’t know – that those seven books points to Jesus Christ. They would have none of that! This is the same reason why the protestors rejected those books, because they knew that those seven book affirmed Catholic teaching, and they would have none of that!

    • jcottle

      Ah, defender of the faith. Someone who feels empowered by “the word.” The proverbial bible thumper.

      No greater bloodshed than that associated with religion and the reason is quite revealing when reviewing the responses. Absolutely no one agrees and all of you believe that you’ve got everything figured out in order to save your seat on the bus to heaven. The one true religion, right?

      LOL. Never a man so foolish than one willingly misled.

      While your people were dancing around under the moon shaking your masks and rattles . . . . . . . ours were landing on it. Both science and religion are manmade endeavors. The former creates miracles and the latter lays claim to them.

    • jcottle

      Well, we have to skip across articles, and “topics,” much in the same way religious zealots pounce about the scripture because every response you’ve made is awaiting moderation and likely to be stricken. Imagine that.

      It doesn’t surprise me that you see the advent of the atom bomb purely as a destructive device. It was manufactured and deployed in order to put an end to a war that the Japanese started of their own volition. Surely you don’t mean to exclude the tragedy at Pearl Harbor. It demonstrated in 8 minutes what would have otherwise cost many more lives than the bombs destroyed.

      Indeed, it was a miracle. For it permitted an enemy who was blind with ambition to finally see reality before it was too late. It also demonstrated to all others the horrors associated with a war to be fought with such weapons and to date, no other single country in the entire world has ever used them for such purpose. The success of the atom bomb opened the door to its utilization for peaceful purposes, such as nuclear medicine, which to date has saved far more lives than were lost at both Nagasaki and Hiroshima alone. Last, but not least, the advent of the atom bomb as a miracle started the journey to discovering the more intricate levels of quantum mechanics that have brought us greater understanding of the universe around us, how it began, how it functions and quite possibly how it will end. It has permitted us the pathway to reach outward, beyond the realm of this planet and to the stars where we will one day populate other planets. A miracle before your very eyes has been taking shape continually since the advent of the atom bomb.

      You see the example merely as an affront to your mortal religious doctrine, a grossly two-dimensional and limited emotional perspective whereas the view of science is one that stirs technological advancement surely to become “everlasting,” to borrow a term most often used in religious corridors but quite fitting here.

  • Ben Cubberley

    What a joke. Everything Paul said could easily have been said by reading the Old Testament. This article is ludicrous, and and attempt to validate a book that wasnt ever in the Bible, until the Catholic church “decreed” it be in 1546.

    • So, this is a problem. You have proof that are Councils of the Catholic Church, as early as 381, the Catholic Church decreed what books are in the Bible, and you still cling to the LAST date we affirmed that decree. So you are either intentionally lying or you have a demonic infestation that prevents you from telling the truth. Which is it? Why do you need to cling to what you believe is truth, rather than open yourself up to what you didn’t previously know?

      • Ben Cubberley

        The demonic infestation is that of the pagan practices that ABOUND in the catholic church. Idols to Mary and other saints, changing the 10 commandments to lose the second and split the tenth because your church is filled with idols. Repetetive prayers with rosary counting, which the Bible forbids, Matthew 6:7 “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” Wake up and realize that the catholic church is the whore church spoken of in Revelations. The whore that sitteth on seven hills. Only one city is on seven hills, and thats ROME. The Hebrew Tanakh is the Old Testament, and nothing your church added to it in 382 or 1546.

        • 1. Icons are not idols. Learn the difference.
          2. Our list goes back to the 3rd and 4th century. That’s why it’s called the Augustinian list. It combines the idols with the first command because it is the same thing. The list itself isn’t a doctrine.
          3. The rosary is a mediation based upon verses in Luke. When Catholics use the word PRAYER, we aren’t using it like Protestants do. Our words have different meanings. For us, PRAYER means conversations, not worship.
          4. The Our Father prayer is said repetitiously, and is the only prayer Jesus taught us. Just because something is repetitions does it make it vain. The word vain means self interested, showy, without meaning or purpose. The Rosary Meditation, because it is a meditation on the life of Christ is not vain.
          5. Rome is a City. During Biblical Times, Rome was the great evil in the world. If the Bible were written today, it would probably be America. Read: Anti-Catholic Myth #2 The Pope is the Antichrist – http://www.davidlgray.info/blog/2015/10/myths-and-lies-1/

          • Ben Cubberley

            If icons are not idols, why change the 10 commandments? Why are prayer counting beads in almost every pagan religion on the planet? And the pope is NOT a man of god, saying atheists go to heaven, and evolution is true. Sounds more like the mouthpiece of satan than anyone else. Face it, catholicism is a vile mix of paganism and Christianity. And the truth mixed with a lie, is still a lie, and satan knows that well.

          • The Decalogue is the first 10 commands of the 613 that Moses communicated to the Israelites. There is no set way to number them, but Jews generally number them the same way and include the icon thing as part of the strange god command, because it is a continuation of of that command. The Rosary Bead themselves is relatively modern and came to us from Saint Dominic. Beads are also memory tools and used in math. The Catholic Church is the ONLY Church established by Jesus through His Apostles and it has withstood every attack, heresy and outlived every government for 2,000 years. It is the Church that the gates of Hell cannot prevail against. Every other Church can be traced back to a man. You can deny the Catholic Church as long as you want, but to deny Jesus’ Church is to deny Him and His gift for you.

          • Ben Cubberley

            LOL, I am Bible believing Christian, (the 66 Book KJV Bible) And I HAVE His gift of salvation thankyou, I dont need membership in the WHORE CHURCH of Revelations that sitteth on seven hills…hmm….ROME…to have that gift, and neither does anyone ELSE! The Bible teaches salvation is from FAITH in CHRIST ALONE, not Christ plus the church!! How dare you question my salvation! And the 10 commandments are clearly IN order in Exodus 20, and repeated later in Deuteronomy 5. No set number? There in the same order BOTH times. And while I believe Jesus’ death fulfilled the law, and really only His two commandments are what are to be followed, (They basically sum up the 10 in 2) even He quoted from the 10 in the New Testament. You STILL ignore how Catholics take out #2!! (Cause your so called church is FILLED with graven images, kinda embarrassing I guess.) While I believe some Catholics are Christians, (as they have put their faith in Jesus death and resurrection and are sanctified through His blood, as am I) (and you may be as well, I wouldnt have the nerve to question your salvation) they do NOT need to be in a church where pagan practices are the regular ritual to have their salvation. They need a church that ONLY believes and practices what is taught in the Bible, not by your so called “saints” and “popes” teach. Have you ever actually READ what some of the popes have done in the past? And you still want to be a Catholic if you have? If so, I truly wonder why. Read Revelations! Its obvious what the Catholic church is in prophecy.

          • Ben I’m sorry you feel offended, but facts only generate emotions because we decided to assign emotion to them. You see, it is a FACT that Christ Jesus established ONE Church through His Apostles, which has continued today without error on faith and morals. YOU Ben REJECT that Church. YOU have intentionally joined the Church of Ben and church started by MEN because of your ignorance, pride, and lies you have been told. Ben, ANYTIME we reject a gift from Christ Jesus there is a price to pay. It may not be your salvation, but there will be a price. Are you Baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

            As I said, you are deeply mistaken about how we number the commandments. We combine the first two and separate the last two. Protesters separate the first two and combine the last two. Here is a link to show you: https://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/ten_commandments.htm

            Also see what the official teaching of the Church as to say about the comand who say we reject. http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c1a1.htm

            So, once again you are wrong, because you believe the lies you’ve been told? What’s your next excuse for rejecting Jesus’ gift to you?

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In Romans, St. Paul Quoted & Themed Heavily from the Book of Wisdom
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In Romans, St. Paul Quoted & Themed Heavily from the Book of Wisdom
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Saint Paul quoted and used themes from the book of Wisdom in his Letter to the Romans because it is a book that they would have been very familiar with.
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